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> That's the same argument people made about Twitter. "If it goes bad, we'll just leave." We know how that played out.

Yeah, it played out with my whole social circle leaving, as evidenced by the fact that all my friends link me to the bluesky post whenever there's something happening now.

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I know noone on BlueSky, I do have friends on X. We liked Twitter and we like X.

same here

I salute the solidarity /s

Joking aside, I think what we see in the larger scheme is a fracturing of social media. More choice, more competition.

This is a good thing


> More choice, more competition. This is a good thing.

hopefully one day we lurk at the same protocol and type: with more federations, more choice. This is a good thing.


ATProto is designed to improve residence and resistance over time. The starting point and requirement was a UX that didn't suck. If you actually want to build a new social fabric that everyone will eventually adopt, you need to be easy and safe for normies, they care more about that than the federated stuff.

Has anyone from the blockchain and federated world found a UX for key management that doesn't suck? Same problem, same non-solution afaik, for how many years now?


More choice, more competition, more echochambers.

Hasn't it always been echochambers? 2000s/2010s forums, irc servers, heavily moderated reddit... Has there ever been free speech truly?

Pre ~2020 4chan was rather open and unmoderated, but also had CSAM issues.


I wasn't talking about free speech per se, but about the fragmentation of public discourse. Having multiple popular platforms makes fragmentation easier.

All your friends are here. All nazies/wokes are there. There's nothing and nowhere to discuss.


It's a strawman argument, of course there are many groups that have nothing to do with politics and echo chamber is wholly inappropriate. Think about your hobby or friend groups, certainly seems fine to have those be little islands in the internet sea.

You are also correct there is nothing new here, groups have been able to create very small echo chambers if they want, many options today.

Nor do they have to be "echo chambers", there are places in the middle which largely remain unexplored. This is where I've charted my course in ATProto


I'll take the echo chamber over being force to read racist and nazi propaganda any day, though kinda hard when the US government is one of the sources of this content.

Yeah, this way there's no need to debunk egregious lies or listen to the other side's replies. You have a feed of debunked lies at home.

Not every group has to be about news, lies, and propaganda or have any content related to that. In fact most are not and created explicitly to escape the noise.

I’m not interested in debunking lies from literal Nazis and fascists, and I’m especially not interested in listening to their replies to anything at all. They can crawl back into the hole they came from.



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